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		<title>By: zydecopaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>zydecopaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been that route and don&#039;t like it as it requires opening the lid and letting all the heat out to check the temperature.  I&#039;ve also used a remote probe (where the digital readout is on the outside and a metal probe attached by a wire is on the inside) and didn&#039;t like that either (my apologies to whoever gave that to me as a gift) as I didn&#039;t like all the extra wires and devices hanging off the grill.

I&#039;m beginning to think there are reasons Weber doesn&#039;t put thermometers on the Smokey Joe grills (other than cost/value), especially the smaller ones.  It seems most folks use them for direct grilling and don&#039;t really care what the temperatures are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been that route and don&#8217;t like it as it requires opening the lid and letting all the heat out to check the temperature.  I&#8217;ve also used a remote probe (where the digital readout is on the outside and a metal probe attached by a wire is on the inside) and didn&#8217;t like that either (my apologies to whoever gave that to me as a gift) as I didn&#8217;t like all the extra wires and devices hanging off the grill.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think there are reasons Weber doesn&#8217;t put thermometers on the Smokey Joe grills (other than cost/value), especially the smaller ones.  It seems most folks use them for direct grilling and don&#8217;t really care what the temperatures are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you just tried using an oven thermomter and placing it on the cooking grate?  This is what I use.  I have a 22.5 weber, and a large barrell smoker with a side firebox.  The smoker came with a thermometer, but being in the lid doesn&#039;t give you a reading of what the fire is on the cooking grate.  The oven does.  There are two inconviences though.  You have to open the lid to check the temp, and when you&#039;re done you will have to clean the thermomter window as the smoke will cover it; however, it does give you the cooking grate temp whether using direct or indirect cooking.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you just tried using an oven thermomter and placing it on the cooking grate?  This is what I use.  I have a 22.5 weber, and a large barrell smoker with a side firebox.  The smoker came with a thermometer, but being in the lid doesn&#8217;t give you a reading of what the fire is on the cooking grate.  The oven does.  There are two inconviences though.  You have to open the lid to check the temp, and when you&#8217;re done you will have to clean the thermomter window as the smoke will cover it; however, it does give you the cooking grate temp whether using direct or indirect cooking&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: zydecopaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>zydecopaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a set of those a long time ago (they came with one of my kettles) but they burned out and disappeared.  They worked OK, but I do remember them falling over frequently and being a bit of a PITA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a set of those a long time ago (they came with one of my kettles) but they burned out and disappeared.  They worked OK, but I do remember them falling over frequently and being a bit of a PITA.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This are what I use:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WEKMK2/ref=oss_product</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This are what I use:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WEKMK2/ref=oss_product" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WEKMK2/ref=oss_product</a></p>
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		<title>By: MiJaGourlay</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiJaGourlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Decided to post the description with pictures:
http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1840039023/m/808106616</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Decided to post the description with pictures:<br />
<a href="http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1840039023/m/808106616" rel="nofollow">http://tvwbb.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1840039023/m/808106616</a></p>
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		<title>By: zydecopaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>zydecopaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great (and detailed) suggestion for all those that own Smokey Joe Silvers.  Thanks very much for taking the time to write it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great (and detailed) suggestion for all those that own Smokey Joe Silvers.  Thanks very much for taking the time to write it up!</p>
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		<title>By: MiJaGourlay</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiJaGourlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently modified my Smokey Joe Silver to include a hook on the lid to hang it on the bottom bowl.  The larger Weber kettle charcoal grills have such a hook and obviously that helps manage where to put the lid, freeing up a hand.  Just wanted to mention a few tidbits in case they end up being helpful to other people.

I got the parts from Ace Hardware.  I used a &quot;rope hook&quot; which is a hook with a flat piece with 2 holes.  The receipt says .236&quot;x2.56&quot;.  It cost $1.29.

The hook was galvanized steel.  I removed the zinc by soaking the part in hydrochloric acid (a.k.a. muriatic acid) for about one minute.  The zinc dissolves very rapidly, and emits a lot of hydrogen gas in the process.  It looks effervescent, like dropping an Alka-Seltzer into water.  After several seconds, the bubbles stopped and the hook came out clean and perfectly free of zinc.

I didn&#039;t want the hook to corrode so I decided to &quot;season&quot; it as if it were a cast iron pan.  I coat the metal rope hook in lard and hung it inside my oven, set to 550 F.  I let each coat cook for about an hour.  After one coat, the hook looked reddish-brown.  After several coats, it took on a polished hard smooth black finish.

I used stainless steel (round philips head) 10-24 hardware (2 bolts, 2 washers, 2 hex nuts, total cost: $1) to attached it to the lid.  Although it was all stainless I decided to &quot;season&quot; it anyway to give it a black finish so it would resemble the black Smokey Joe lid I have.

I placed the screw holes under the handle, such that the hook itself is almost directly under one of the &quot;struts&quot; of the handle.  I chose this location for 2 reasons: symmetry and the fact that when hanging, the lid was a little higher up.  I had in mind that the lid might provide some wind-screen effect, like what the Platinum provides (albeit using a different mechanism).  In retrospect I would have mounted the hook closer to the rim so that more of the lid hangs below the cooking bowl because the placement I chose ends up making some of the lid lean a little over the cooking area.

I drilled the holes using a cobalt bit.  Just like the mod above, I put masking tape on the bowl and used a hole punch to dent the steel so the bit wouldn&#039;t walk.

The round head goes on the outside under the handle so it doesn&#039;t snag on your fingers.

I also used a tiny bolt cutter (actually a combo crimp/bolt cutter tool meant for electronics, which has a special 10-24 threaded &quot;port&quot;) to make both bolts exactly the right length; no excess on the inside of the lid.  I figured that would keep the whole thing cleaner. Barely any thread is exposed.

The whole thing looks like it belongs there; it doesn&#039;t look like a mod.

I&#039;d recommend this mod to somebody who struggles with their Smokey Joe Silver lid.  The only thing I&#039;d change is the hook placement; should be nearer to the lid rim.

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently modified my Smokey Joe Silver to include a hook on the lid to hang it on the bottom bowl.  The larger Weber kettle charcoal grills have such a hook and obviously that helps manage where to put the lid, freeing up a hand.  Just wanted to mention a few tidbits in case they end up being helpful to other people.</p>
<p>I got the parts from Ace Hardware.  I used a &#8220;rope hook&#8221; which is a hook with a flat piece with 2 holes.  The receipt says .236&#8243;x2.56&#8243;.  It cost $1.29.</p>
<p>The hook was galvanized steel.  I removed the zinc by soaking the part in hydrochloric acid (a.k.a. muriatic acid) for about one minute.  The zinc dissolves very rapidly, and emits a lot of hydrogen gas in the process.  It looks effervescent, like dropping an Alka-Seltzer into water.  After several seconds, the bubbles stopped and the hook came out clean and perfectly free of zinc.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want the hook to corrode so I decided to &#8220;season&#8221; it as if it were a cast iron pan.  I coat the metal rope hook in lard and hung it inside my oven, set to 550 F.  I let each coat cook for about an hour.  After one coat, the hook looked reddish-brown.  After several coats, it took on a polished hard smooth black finish.</p>
<p>I used stainless steel (round philips head) 10-24 hardware (2 bolts, 2 washers, 2 hex nuts, total cost: $1) to attached it to the lid.  Although it was all stainless I decided to &#8220;season&#8221; it anyway to give it a black finish so it would resemble the black Smokey Joe lid I have.</p>
<p>I placed the screw holes under the handle, such that the hook itself is almost directly under one of the &#8220;struts&#8221; of the handle.  I chose this location for 2 reasons: symmetry and the fact that when hanging, the lid was a little higher up.  I had in mind that the lid might provide some wind-screen effect, like what the Platinum provides (albeit using a different mechanism).  In retrospect I would have mounted the hook closer to the rim so that more of the lid hangs below the cooking bowl because the placement I chose ends up making some of the lid lean a little over the cooking area.</p>
<p>I drilled the holes using a cobalt bit.  Just like the mod above, I put masking tape on the bowl and used a hole punch to dent the steel so the bit wouldn&#8217;t walk.</p>
<p>The round head goes on the outside under the handle so it doesn&#8217;t snag on your fingers.</p>
<p>I also used a tiny bolt cutter (actually a combo crimp/bolt cutter tool meant for electronics, which has a special 10-24 threaded &#8220;port&#8221;) to make both bolts exactly the right length; no excess on the inside of the lid.  I figured that would keep the whole thing cleaner. Barely any thread is exposed.</p>
<p>The whole thing looks like it belongs there; it doesn&#8217;t look like a mod.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend this mod to somebody who struggles with their Smokey Joe Silver lid.  The only thing I&#8217;d change is the hook placement; should be nearer to the lid rim.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: zydecopaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>zydecopaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real variance shows up if you have the coals set up for indirect cooking and the thermometer is directly over them.  I suppose if coals were set to both sides and the gap in the middle as opposed to all at one end that this problem could be avoided; one of these days I&#039;ll have to play around with this and see if I can devise an easy way to hold coals on both sides rather than against the back.  Weber used to have metal inserts you could put on the lower grates, but I haven&#039;t seen those around for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real variance shows up if you have the coals set up for indirect cooking and the thermometer is directly over them.  I suppose if coals were set to both sides and the gap in the middle as opposed to all at one end that this problem could be avoided; one of these days I&#8217;ll have to play around with this and see if I can devise an easy way to hold coals on both sides rather than against the back.  Weber used to have metal inserts you could put on the lower grates, but I haven&#8217;t seen those around for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say leave it where is and use a thermometer with a bit longer stem. The pit is small enough that there shouldn&#039;t be a &quot;huge&quot; temperature variance due to location.  If you want to get all technical just get a grate thermometer and put it on whatever side of the cooking grate you&#039;re using at the time. Besides the top mount thermometer just looks cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say leave it where is and use a thermometer with a bit longer stem. The pit is small enough that there shouldn&#8217;t be a &#8220;huge&#8221; temperature variance due to location.  If you want to get all technical just get a grate thermometer and put it on whatever side of the cooking grate you&#8217;re using at the time. Besides the top mount thermometer just looks cool.</p>
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		<title>By: zydecopaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>zydecopaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t gotten around to it, but I was going to attach another one on the side of the lid down closer to the grate.  This would allow you to get the temperature at the grate; there would still be variances based on your charcoal placement but you could spin the lid around to see how much difference there was.  If you keep it on the side where you have the food, that should be a lot more accurate than the top placement I had here.

One of these days I&#039;ll have some time to play around and try this; when I do I&#039;ll be able to compare the temps at the top with those at the grate.  I&#039;ll be sure and post an update when I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t gotten around to it, but I was going to attach another one on the side of the lid down closer to the grate.  This would allow you to get the temperature at the grate; there would still be variances based on your charcoal placement but you could spin the lid around to see how much difference there was.  If you keep it on the side where you have the food, that should be a lot more accurate than the top placement I had here.</p>
<p>One of these days I&#8217;ll have some time to play around and try this; when I do I&#8217;ll be able to compare the temps at the top with those at the grate.  I&#8217;ll be sure and post an update when I do.</p>
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